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9 PHANTEUR 9 --------------------- EGO-BEAST -- Re FAPA publicity, there is considerable divergence of opinion within the ranks as to what we want in the way of publicity. Except for an occasional slump, FAPA has had more applicants than could be accepted. At times, the Waiting List has been so long that applicants become discouraged, and gave up the idea of joining. When numerous vacancies developed, personal letters, or, on occasion, something like Laney's letter to Fandom Speaks have proved sufficient. In general, membership has been composed of experienced fan publishers and/or writers, most of whom learned of the organization thru correspondence. Statements in existing subscription 'zines from time to time probably would be the best form of advertising, if any additional is needed, and will reach the individuals most likely to be valuable and interested members. -- The specific values Caldwell looks for in science fiction are more readily found in Westerns, love-pulps, general adventure magazines than in any science fiction magazine worthy of the name. As much as anything, I read science fiction and Unk-type fantasy because it contains elements not found elsewhere; if I wanted cops-and-robbers primarily, I wouldn't look for it in ASF -- nor in Amazing, either, largely because most, though not all the stories to be found therein are so poor in all respects. Tell George, will you? -- Since I'm not in the market for old 'zines, and don't care a hoot about a complete collection, dealers' prices don't worry me much. -- I couldn't tell you why, try as I might, but if I were a pro editor, I'd not by Ackerman's "Venus" filler. -- I like "Pro-Phile," but I really think it belongs in DQ. It will be OK in the FAPA, of course, but you should use something like EGO-BEAST, rather than solicited articles, for the rest of the publication. -- Discussion of gadgets and stories is OK. But what are you trying to do; convince me that I ought to read Amazing? JABBERWOCKY -- So the deadline caught up with you; it caught up with me last Fall. -- When anyone talks about "government interference" in business, the ads form the Calcutta paper make good ammunition for the other side. -- Book Review -- Don't reckon I'll ever get around to reading "Finnegan's Wake;" if it were translated into English, I might try it, but I suspect a great deal would be lost by such treatment. -- Nice of CASmith to explain why I don't like weird fiction. -- Wish I could achieve some sort of compromise between your good but very short mailing comments, and my own indifferent but very long ditto. But I probably won't. -- Any idea when my copy of the Kelleryarn will be showing up? FAN-DANGO -- Well, I hope General Eager is right. But there are some weak spots in the way intelligence is -- or at least, has been -- handled here. It almost seems at time as though the higher-ups had no confidence in their own agents. -- It occurs to me that EEE may actually mean the same thing in re ethics as you mean, Fran. In other words, I think he may mean that fans should apply the same ethical considerations with respect to other fans, that people in general practice with respect to their friends and acquaintances. Fans seem to have a habit of disregarding normal relationships of an ethical nature, as far as other fans are concerned. -- I think I would like having a try at "Really the Blues;" but whether or not I would ever finish the book, I don't know. I just don't think I'm emotional enough by nature to comprehend a guy like Mezzrow. -- I like a good whodunnit, and there are lots of them; a lot more good ones than there are good science fiction stories; but I like science fiction a little better, and I haven't time to read even a fraction of the fiction of all kinds that I would like to read -- so, I don't read many whodunnits. -- I don't suppose that it has occurred to many members that curing other members' faults is one of the purposes behind being a FAPAn. I know it never occurred to me. My usual reaction is the negative one of dropping anyone or anything who/which displeases me; not an admirable custom, but widely used. -- Well, I probably won't hie myself off to any remote island, but I think it would be a good idea if a few thousand young couples and their children would do just that. As the quote says, "life loses significance" without the supporting medium of the world as we know it, but it must be admitted that even a vegetative existence has more significance than no existence at all. -- It would seem that the inanities concerning the Burbee-Laney Ashley must become very boring in time, but as far as I'm concerned, they are still funny.
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9 PHANTEUR 9 --------------------- EGO-BEAST -- Re FAPA publicity, there is considerable divergence of opinion within the ranks as to what we want in the way of publicity. Except for an occasional slump, FAPA has had more applicants than could be accepted. At times, the Waiting List has been so long that applicants become discouraged, and gave up the idea of joining. When numerous vacancies developed, personal letters, or, on occasion, something like Laney's letter to Fandom Speaks have proved sufficient. In general, membership has been composed of experienced fan publishers and/or writers, most of whom learned of the organization thru correspondence. Statements in existing subscription 'zines from time to time probably would be the best form of advertising, if any additional is needed, and will reach the individuals most likely to be valuable and interested members. -- The specific values Caldwell looks for in science fiction are more readily found in Westerns, love-pulps, general adventure magazines than in any science fiction magazine worthy of the name. As much as anything, I read science fiction and Unk-type fantasy because it contains elements not found elsewhere; if I wanted cops-and-robbers primarily, I wouldn't look for it in ASF -- nor in Amazing, either, largely because most, though not all the stories to be found therein are so poor in all respects. Tell George, will you? -- Since I'm not in the market for old 'zines, and don't care a hoot about a complete collection, dealers' prices don't worry me much. -- I couldn't tell you why, try as I might, but if I were a pro editor, I'd not by Ackerman's "Venus" filler. -- I like "Pro-Phile," but I really think it belongs in DQ. It will be OK in the FAPA, of course, but you should use something like EGO-BEAST, rather than solicited articles, for the rest of the publication. -- Discussion of gadgets and stories is OK. But what are you trying to do; convince me that I ought to read Amazing? JABBERWOCKY -- So the deadline caught up with you; it caught up with me last Fall. -- When anyone talks about "government interference" in business, the ads form the Calcutta paper make good ammunition for the other side. -- Book Review -- Don't reckon I'll ever get around to reading "Finnegan's Wake;" if it were translated into English, I might try it, but I suspect a great deal would be lost by such treatment. -- Nice of CASmith to explain why I don't like weird fiction. -- Wish I could achieve some sort of compromise between your good but very short mailing comments, and my own indifferent but very long ditto. But I probably won't. -- Any idea when my copy of the Kelleryarn will be showing up? FAN-DANGO -- Well, I hope General Eager is right. But there are some weak spots in the way intelligence is -- or at least, has been -- handled here. It almost seems at time as though the higher-ups had no confidence in their own agents. -- It occurs to me that EEE may actually mean the same thing in re ethics as you mean, Fran. In other words, I think he may mean that fans should apply the same ethical considerations with respect to other fans, that people in general practice with respect to their friends and acquaintances. Fans seem to have a habit of disregarding normal relationships of an ethical nature, as far as other fans are concerned. -- I think I would like having a try at "Really the Blues;" but whether or not I would ever finish the book, I don't know. I just don't think I'm emotional enough by nature to comprehend a guy like Mezzrow. -- I like a good whodunnit, and there are lots of them; a lot more good ones than there are good science fiction stories; but I like science fiction a little better, and I haven't time to read even a fraction of the fiction of all kinds that I would like to read -- so, I don't read many whodunnits. -- I don't suppose that it has occurred to many members that curing other members' faults is one of the purposes behind being a FAPAn. I know it never occurred to me. My usual reaction is the negative one of dropping anyone or anything who/which displeases me; not an admirable custom, but widely used. -- Well, I probably won't hie myself off to any remote island, but I think it would be a good idea if a few thousand young couples and their children would do just that. As the quote says, "life loses significance" without the supporting medium of the world as we know it, but it must be admitted that even a vegetative existence has more significance than no existence at all. -- It would seem that the inanities concerning the Burbee-Laney Ashley must become very boring in time, but as far as I'm concerned, they are still funny.
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