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Ember, issue 29, January 20, 1947
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Comments.......... "Your fine paper clicks 99% with me, the remaining one percent being your condensation of the article by brother Hinkle M.D. This is typically lacking in imagination and belongs back in the days of the rattle shaking witch-doctors along with most of the medical profession...MOST philosophical systems are outdated...The flaw of course is his failure to include as a system his own scientific METHOD which in a few more years will be as obsolete as Christianity and Jehovah. Without a doubt the few valuable tenets to be found in the aggregate of sophists are too difficult for his understanding which finds more usefulness in speculating as to why a fire burns or how many germs can dance on the head of a pin. What he is searching for is a code of set of laws which can produce wisdom without understanding. The value of speculation lies not in the laws which follow but in the understanding of them." -Miles Eaton. "...the smug and idiotic statements of Hinkle make me indignant and angry. I can't argue with him or people of his type, however, because it is useless to cast pearls before swine. Hinkle states-'I take a dim view of Philosophy in general', of course -a dim wit's view. Profound and sublime Egyptian and Buddhist philosophy is not for the dim-viewers." -- Ralph Rayburn Phillips. "Every time I see one of your quotes from Aldous Huxley or Thayer, I hug all the closer to orthodox scientific thot and method. I have no patience whatever with introspection as a source of general truths. It may be an adequate source of some wholly subjective truths, but not objective ones. -Don B. Thompson. "These people, like H.C.Goble, who write pieces for Amazing and tell about their wonderful, revolutionary inventions, which, for various ill-defined reasons they are unable to develop, irritate me profoundly. Why don't they take out patents, if they think they have something on the ball?" -- Norman Stanley. "I still think that Schumann is doing wishful thinking in hoping that the mass of the people can influence governments. Also his idea of - Today millions, tomorrow the world - presupposes that the people who are convinced ((according to a set of precepts originated by Schumann for the good of the world..)) can travel so that they can convince others. His plan cannot have a single starting point, because it would be possible to convince all the people in one small town, but the rate of diffusion from that town might be very small! Also what is to prevent one of the governments from starting their own program of convincing and making the people think that the gov't is doing what is best???" -- Al Lopez [handwritten] AN X ON THE ADDRESS LINE MEANS YOUR SUB IS XPIRED [typed] Emberace Status: Bob Stein 6 Redd Boggs 5 1/2 4E Ackerman 4 1/2 Tigrina 4 1/2 Milt Rothman 4 1/2 Norm Stanley 4 P. Klingbiel 3 F. Robinson 3 George Tullis 2 1/2 Sam Russell 2 Jack Speer 2 R. Hodgkins 2 Boff Perry 2 R. Nelson 2 Al Lopez 2 Nick Carr 1 1/2 H. Eisner 1 1/2 R. Richardson 1 1/2 P. Schumann 1 1/2 J Kennedy 1 1/2 and 23 others have earned points by financial and literary contributions to Ember; the prize is the choice of one of five fine fantasy books ..... Ember has some first issue s-f mags that it will sell for only 25c each, postage postpaid. This is in keeping with a campaign to get prices down to normal in our circle. Subscribers to Ember will get the nod over others -- but write and tell me what to hold. I have: Cap Future, Future, Dynamic but sans cover, Science Fiction, Stirring Science but tattered, SFQuarterly, Planet, SuperScience, Astonishing, Marvel, Comet, Witch's Tales, Science Illustrated. -5-
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Comments.......... "Your fine paper clicks 99% with me, the remaining one percent being your condensation of the article by brother Hinkle M.D. This is typically lacking in imagination and belongs back in the days of the rattle shaking witch-doctors along with most of the medical profession...MOST philosophical systems are outdated...The flaw of course is his failure to include as a system his own scientific METHOD which in a few more years will be as obsolete as Christianity and Jehovah. Without a doubt the few valuable tenets to be found in the aggregate of sophists are too difficult for his understanding which finds more usefulness in speculating as to why a fire burns or how many germs can dance on the head of a pin. What he is searching for is a code of set of laws which can produce wisdom without understanding. The value of speculation lies not in the laws which follow but in the understanding of them." -Miles Eaton. "...the smug and idiotic statements of Hinkle make me indignant and angry. I can't argue with him or people of his type, however, because it is useless to cast pearls before swine. Hinkle states-'I take a dim view of Philosophy in general', of course -a dim wit's view. Profound and sublime Egyptian and Buddhist philosophy is not for the dim-viewers." -- Ralph Rayburn Phillips. "Every time I see one of your quotes from Aldous Huxley or Thayer, I hug all the closer to orthodox scientific thot and method. I have no patience whatever with introspection as a source of general truths. It may be an adequate source of some wholly subjective truths, but not objective ones. -Don B. Thompson. "These people, like H.C.Goble, who write pieces for Amazing and tell about their wonderful, revolutionary inventions, which, for various ill-defined reasons they are unable to develop, irritate me profoundly. Why don't they take out patents, if they think they have something on the ball?" -- Norman Stanley. "I still think that Schumann is doing wishful thinking in hoping that the mass of the people can influence governments. Also his idea of - Today millions, tomorrow the world - presupposes that the people who are convinced ((according to a set of precepts originated by Schumann for the good of the world..)) can travel so that they can convince others. His plan cannot have a single starting point, because it would be possible to convince all the people in one small town, but the rate of diffusion from that town might be very small! Also what is to prevent one of the governments from starting their own program of convincing and making the people think that the gov't is doing what is best???" -- Al Lopez [handwritten] AN X ON THE ADDRESS LINE MEANS YOUR SUB IS XPIRED [typed] Emberace Status: Bob Stein 6 Redd Boggs 5 1/2 4E Ackerman 4 1/2 Tigrina 4 1/2 Milt Rothman 4 1/2 Norm Stanley 4 P. Klingbiel 3 F. Robinson 3 George Tullis 2 1/2 Sam Russell 2 Jack Speer 2 R. Hodgkins 2 Boff Perry 2 R. Nelson 2 Al Lopez 2 Nick Carr 1 1/2 H. Eisner 1 1/2 R. Richardson 1 1/2 P. Schumann 1 1/2 J Kennedy 1 1/2 and 23 others have earned points by financial and literary contributions to Ember; the prize is the choice of one of five fine fantasy books ..... Ember has some first issue s-f mags that it will sell for only 25c each, postage postpaid. This is in keeping with a campaign to get prices down to normal in our circle. Subscribers to Ember will get the nod over others -- but write and tell me what to hold. I have: Cap Future, Future, Dynamic but sans cover, Science Fiction, Stirring Science but tattered, SFQuarterly, Planet, SuperScience, Astonishing, Marvel, Comet, Witch's Tales, Science Illustrated. -5-
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