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Fandango, v. 2, issue 1, whole no. 5, Summer 1944
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ing: "..the day is coming when this nation will have to choose between its economic system (as is) and the welfare of the great majority of the people who inhabit it." Truer words could not be spoken....Getting lost in the microcosm of fandom? I can name at least one individual who certainly has managed to do this....And I like Michel's Reflections very much.----ooOoo-- EN GARDE. My lead article discusses your "Matters of Ethics".. I thought you wanted to clean up FAPA, Al, and here you call the ads in Fanfare "simply excruciating". They were, to be sure, but is this not somewhat inconsistent of you? --ooOoo-- FAN-TODS. The age of wonders evidently is not over, when a man of Stanley's position resorts to statistical tables to make the lowly FTLaniac out a liar! Wheee! I feel no end flattered. Seriously, I admit I was indulging in the highly unscientific stunt of generalizing without working out the data completely; my point was and is, however, that a basic attitude of mistrust and disbelief is a handy thing to have in one's makeup. Obviously, I use some discrimination in what I accept or reject.If the statement comes from anyone who has a financial, political, moral, or other axe to grind, I tend to make a loud and disrespectful sound with the tongue and lips. Coming to cases, I will accept material coming from a non-commercial scientific laboratory; but will reject advertising, political statements, religious dissertations, and similar verbiage. I suppose that I err on the side of extreme incredulity, yet it is obviously impossible to guess right intuitively all the time, and I personally would prefer to reject a truth rather than to accept a falsehood. Just my Missourian ancestry, I guess.... And whaddya mean, calling me "a real old timer"? This, sir, is the fifth mailing in which I've participated, which should scarcely make me a veteran. But then, I like to be flattered....Incidentally, lest there be any doubt on the matter, my crack at you under my discussion of FA a few pages back is strictly impersonal....Also strictly impersonal is the following: On page 17 of FT, you say "CAPA MAILING: I hafta give Donnie an activity credential for this, you know." May I ask WHY? Though we muffed it ourselves by not saying so in the Lean-3 or whatever we called it, the underlying idea of submitting this junk was to serve as supporting evidence for Fan-Dango No. 3-A (the single-sheeter which demanded the expulsion of Degler). At one time, in fact, we intended to staple these sheets together, with Fan-Dango on the front as a cover. It seems to me obvious that Degler should have no activity credit for this stuff which we submitted to use against him, and I will state further that had I happened to hold your august office at the time this happened, I would have given credit for this pile of stuff to Laney, as part of Fan-Dango. You must remember that this is stuff which Dagler left behind in his hasty evacuation of Shangri-La, and we salvaged it from Kepner's closet. Many of these items had never been circulated at all outside of Los Angeles, and would not have been, had we not decided to let Degler's own remarks damn him. Let's not let a little matter of stupid ethics stand in our way of squashing this creature. --ooOoo-- SARDONYX. I wish to state publicly that Chauvenet is wonderful. Chauvenet is marvelous. Chauvenet is god. What a man! Fapafile is, of course, responsible for my delight--of the fans I know, Russell missed fire on only one, which is pretty doggone good for a chap who has met so few of these people personally. On Bronson, I feel you are mistaken. I have gotten to know Phil quite well, and certainly can -- 9 --
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ing: "..the day is coming when this nation will have to choose between its economic system (as is) and the welfare of the great majority of the people who inhabit it." Truer words could not be spoken....Getting lost in the microcosm of fandom? I can name at least one individual who certainly has managed to do this....And I like Michel's Reflections very much.----ooOoo-- EN GARDE. My lead article discusses your "Matters of Ethics".. I thought you wanted to clean up FAPA, Al, and here you call the ads in Fanfare "simply excruciating". They were, to be sure, but is this not somewhat inconsistent of you? --ooOoo-- FAN-TODS. The age of wonders evidently is not over, when a man of Stanley's position resorts to statistical tables to make the lowly FTLaniac out a liar! Wheee! I feel no end flattered. Seriously, I admit I was indulging in the highly unscientific stunt of generalizing without working out the data completely; my point was and is, however, that a basic attitude of mistrust and disbelief is a handy thing to have in one's makeup. Obviously, I use some discrimination in what I accept or reject.If the statement comes from anyone who has a financial, political, moral, or other axe to grind, I tend to make a loud and disrespectful sound with the tongue and lips. Coming to cases, I will accept material coming from a non-commercial scientific laboratory; but will reject advertising, political statements, religious dissertations, and similar verbiage. I suppose that I err on the side of extreme incredulity, yet it is obviously impossible to guess right intuitively all the time, and I personally would prefer to reject a truth rather than to accept a falsehood. Just my Missourian ancestry, I guess.... And whaddya mean, calling me "a real old timer"? This, sir, is the fifth mailing in which I've participated, which should scarcely make me a veteran. But then, I like to be flattered....Incidentally, lest there be any doubt on the matter, my crack at you under my discussion of FA a few pages back is strictly impersonal....Also strictly impersonal is the following: On page 17 of FT, you say "CAPA MAILING: I hafta give Donnie an activity credential for this, you know." May I ask WHY? Though we muffed it ourselves by not saying so in the Lean-3 or whatever we called it, the underlying idea of submitting this junk was to serve as supporting evidence for Fan-Dango No. 3-A (the single-sheeter which demanded the expulsion of Degler). At one time, in fact, we intended to staple these sheets together, with Fan-Dango on the front as a cover. It seems to me obvious that Degler should have no activity credit for this stuff which we submitted to use against him, and I will state further that had I happened to hold your august office at the time this happened, I would have given credit for this pile of stuff to Laney, as part of Fan-Dango. You must remember that this is stuff which Dagler left behind in his hasty evacuation of Shangri-La, and we salvaged it from Kepner's closet. Many of these items had never been circulated at all outside of Los Angeles, and would not have been, had we not decided to let Degler's own remarks damn him. Let's not let a little matter of stupid ethics stand in our way of squashing this creature. --ooOoo-- SARDONYX. I wish to state publicly that Chauvenet is wonderful. Chauvenet is marvelous. Chauvenet is god. What a man! Fapafile is, of course, responsible for my delight--of the fans I know, Russell missed fire on only one, which is pretty doggone good for a chap who has met so few of these people personally. On Bronson, I feel you are mistaken. I have gotten to know Phil quite well, and certainly can -- 9 --
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