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Voice of the Imagination, whole no. 44, July 1945
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8 VOM [[underlined]] most certain their destiny is leftwards. But, although I like Americans and although I have never met Russians, for my own future, for the future of my country and the world, if ever Gt. Britain has to choose between allying herself with a Russia of 20 years continued evolution from today, or an America of the same ---- I hope we ally with Russia. # [[underlined]] In a letter dated 7 July 45, JACK SPEER of 5229 University Way, Seattle %, Wash, discourses: [[end underlined]] Interest Vom arrived just the other day, and the three back issues this afternoon. Like Palmer's Grand Old Book says, the last shall be first. In Vom 39, your interpolation in Deeby's letter (DBThompson- drat the fallen arches this machine has developt!) gives me an occasion to use this quotation from Below the Potomac: "Miss Mitchell must have offered up orisons to the Deity for the fact that nobody in the motion picture perpetrated that abominable slander against the fair name of Southern civilization, the use of 'you all' to denote only one person. It seems futile to protest that such usage exists only as a figment of the Northern imagination." That for you, suh! Dick and you err in referring to me as a teetotaler. (Dick referd to: Sgt Dick Wilson.) I don't think I've ever paid for a drink, though. Yes I have, too; up in Quebec couple months ago. It was supposed to be just a loan, but the other guy disappeared. (What did U have to drink, vanishing creme de monthe?) To a limited extent Doc's statement may be correct, that any extra intelligence, sophistication, maturity, or desirability of fen would not be due to reading stef. However, there are other qualities more important than sophistication, for one, which reading our literature does develop. Kepner mentions some of these in his Manifesto. Might as well skip to the Manifesto, since I mentioned it. He has suggested that it would be interesting to see if film fans could introvert themselves and produce a "fandom" similar to ours. While I think that there are particular qualities called for in enjoying stef that are tied up with fan activities, they seem insufficient of themselves to have produced all this. Especially as fiction. Somehow the beginnings of fandom were cast up almost by chance, but once in existence, became a dynamic, growing thing. Just as the first life on Earth came in to existence in a particular year out of a thousand years in which it was possible, and might not have reappeared for centuries if that first spark had been extinguished. Gee, ain't we deep! I wonder if the hard-to-please readers are the latest development of the original enthusiastic reader-critics. It would be interesting to know if people like Poter Duncan started out as enthusiastic as a Jack Carrow. Kepner's nine-fold division of interst might be open to question in particulars, but the general principle, that of pluralism rather than duelism or monism, is one to which I'm attracted in thinking about many things. For instance, I've about abandoned the idea of a summum bonum at the base of ethics, in preference to the rather pluralistic "values" theory. To return to the letters: Harry Warner's suggestion of solving mailabilitty doubts by taking questioned material to the local postoffice seems so far simpler than the present FAPA system of mailing copies to one or more officers for decision, that I wonder it hasn't been adopted. Is there a snag in it somewhere? (U said it, Snaggle-tooth!) The Nock conclusion Jimmy mentions, that taste and manners should prevail over the courts of law, religion, and morals, seem to amount to the Hellenic idea of justice. Maine says that they tried to settle each case on what appeared to be its merits, without reference to previous similar decisions. The trouble with that is that in any dispute that is carried to bar, there must be an apparently strong case on both sides, and the decision is very likely to be what Dunkolberger would call "setting one's own prejudices and opinions up in opposition to another's". Under modern systems, people can usually tell in advance whether what they're doing will be judged right or wrong. About democracy debasing literary taste -- I dunno. I was in a secondhand mag shop this noon, and saw a lot of the old Big Three, and was amazed at how putrid the drawings and ad illustrations were, that we and grownups as well, swallowed eagerly at the time. If our tastes have improved that much in 15 year (and I believe it is due to improvement in taste), I cannot get pessimistic about the future of esthetics. See also "Blind Alley" in Unknown. Now to Vom 40: You don't know, maybe Don Jalbert has a reason for that extra n oh "fandomn"! Unger is decidedly not the man for collectors with a small starting stock to turn to. He says frankly that he aims at filling the few gaps in large collections; when some new fan writes to him about getting a lot of oldies, he refers them elsewhere. They'd have to be young Croesuses. (To follow interpolation: Is that quip really necessary?) If U were a Frenchman, Chas McNutt-- who holds copyryt on that pun- woud no dout "sou"U for your last centime!) Re your introduction of him as Willie Maliano Watson -- I was under the impression that "Maliano", at least at first, designated that brite-eyed fourteen-year-old, Harry Honig. Has he been identified as Watson? (U just don't care who U incite to sue U, do U? Watson is 16 or 17.) Ego's (Arthur Clarke) letter is up to the high British standard. Since he uses the quote "the light that never was on land or sea". I wonder if he can tell me where it comes from. # [[underlined]] Speer leads off Vom #45 discussing the contents of Vom #41. [[underlined]] SEP 1 1980 Tridek.
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8 VOM [[underlined]] most certain their destiny is leftwards. But, although I like Americans and although I have never met Russians, for my own future, for the future of my country and the world, if ever Gt. Britain has to choose between allying herself with a Russia of 20 years continued evolution from today, or an America of the same ---- I hope we ally with Russia. # [[underlined]] In a letter dated 7 July 45, JACK SPEER of 5229 University Way, Seattle %, Wash, discourses: [[end underlined]] Interest Vom arrived just the other day, and the three back issues this afternoon. Like Palmer's Grand Old Book says, the last shall be first. In Vom 39, your interpolation in Deeby's letter (DBThompson- drat the fallen arches this machine has developt!) gives me an occasion to use this quotation from Below the Potomac: "Miss Mitchell must have offered up orisons to the Deity for the fact that nobody in the motion picture perpetrated that abominable slander against the fair name of Southern civilization, the use of 'you all' to denote only one person. It seems futile to protest that such usage exists only as a figment of the Northern imagination." That for you, suh! Dick and you err in referring to me as a teetotaler. (Dick referd to: Sgt Dick Wilson.) I don't think I've ever paid for a drink, though. Yes I have, too; up in Quebec couple months ago. It was supposed to be just a loan, but the other guy disappeared. (What did U have to drink, vanishing creme de monthe?) To a limited extent Doc's statement may be correct, that any extra intelligence, sophistication, maturity, or desirability of fen would not be due to reading stef. However, there are other qualities more important than sophistication, for one, which reading our literature does develop. Kepner mentions some of these in his Manifesto. Might as well skip to the Manifesto, since I mentioned it. He has suggested that it would be interesting to see if film fans could introvert themselves and produce a "fandom" similar to ours. While I think that there are particular qualities called for in enjoying stef that are tied up with fan activities, they seem insufficient of themselves to have produced all this. Especially as fiction. Somehow the beginnings of fandom were cast up almost by chance, but once in existence, became a dynamic, growing thing. Just as the first life on Earth came in to existence in a particular year out of a thousand years in which it was possible, and might not have reappeared for centuries if that first spark had been extinguished. Gee, ain't we deep! I wonder if the hard-to-please readers are the latest development of the original enthusiastic reader-critics. It would be interesting to know if people like Poter Duncan started out as enthusiastic as a Jack Carrow. Kepner's nine-fold division of interst might be open to question in particulars, but the general principle, that of pluralism rather than duelism or monism, is one to which I'm attracted in thinking about many things. For instance, I've about abandoned the idea of a summum bonum at the base of ethics, in preference to the rather pluralistic "values" theory. To return to the letters: Harry Warner's suggestion of solving mailabilitty doubts by taking questioned material to the local postoffice seems so far simpler than the present FAPA system of mailing copies to one or more officers for decision, that I wonder it hasn't been adopted. Is there a snag in it somewhere? (U said it, Snaggle-tooth!) The Nock conclusion Jimmy mentions, that taste and manners should prevail over the courts of law, religion, and morals, seem to amount to the Hellenic idea of justice. Maine says that they tried to settle each case on what appeared to be its merits, without reference to previous similar decisions. The trouble with that is that in any dispute that is carried to bar, there must be an apparently strong case on both sides, and the decision is very likely to be what Dunkolberger would call "setting one's own prejudices and opinions up in opposition to another's". Under modern systems, people can usually tell in advance whether what they're doing will be judged right or wrong. About democracy debasing literary taste -- I dunno. I was in a secondhand mag shop this noon, and saw a lot of the old Big Three, and was amazed at how putrid the drawings and ad illustrations were, that we and grownups as well, swallowed eagerly at the time. If our tastes have improved that much in 15 year (and I believe it is due to improvement in taste), I cannot get pessimistic about the future of esthetics. See also "Blind Alley" in Unknown. Now to Vom 40: You don't know, maybe Don Jalbert has a reason for that extra n oh "fandomn"! Unger is decidedly not the man for collectors with a small starting stock to turn to. He says frankly that he aims at filling the few gaps in large collections; when some new fan writes to him about getting a lot of oldies, he refers them elsewhere. They'd have to be young Croesuses. (To follow interpolation: Is that quip really necessary?) If U were a Frenchman, Chas McNutt-- who holds copyryt on that pun- woud no dout "sou"U for your last centime!) Re your introduction of him as Willie Maliano Watson -- I was under the impression that "Maliano", at least at first, designated that brite-eyed fourteen-year-old, Harry Honig. Has he been identified as Watson? (U just don't care who U incite to sue U, do U? Watson is 16 or 17.) Ego's (Arthur Clarke) letter is up to the high British standard. Since he uses the quote "the light that never was on land or sea". I wonder if he can tell me where it comes from. # [[underlined]] Speer leads off Vom #45 discussing the contents of Vom #41. [[underlined]] SEP 1 1980 Tridek.
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